Cost of Comparable OHL Arena's,and One NHL Arena

The cost of this proposed multiplex has gone "completely off the rails", with the Water St location driving the price to an unaffordable cost. Why is it so high? Compare what other cities, that have Ontario Hockey League teams, have paid to build their facilities. To clearly illustrate how outrageous it is, compare the Thunder Bay price tag to what it cost Winnipeg to build the MTS Centre where the Winnipeg Jets play in the NHL!

NHL Arena

MTS Centre,(Home of Winnipeg Jets)
Winnipeg Manitoba, Hockey 15,004

Construction cost $133.5 million ($175 million in 2012 dollars)

Ontario Hockey League Arena’s

 

Budweiser Gardens , (Formerly John Labatt Centre)

London Ontario, Hockey 9100

Construction cost $42 million, plus $10 million for land

Sleeman Centre

Guelph Ontario, Hockey 4,195

Construction cost $21 million ($26.4 million in 2012 dollars)

 

Essar Centre

Sault Ste Marie Ontario, Hockey 5000

Construction cost $25 million ($28 million in 2012 dollars)

 

General Motors Centre

Oshawa Ontario, Hockey 6107

Construction cost $45 million ($49.4 million in 2012 dollars)

K-Rock Centre

Kingston Ontario, Hockey 5700

Construction cost $46.5 million ($48.8 million in 2012 dollars)

 

WFCU Centre

Windsor Ontario Hockey 6500

Construction cost $71,000,000

Hershey Centre 

Mississauga Ontario, Hockey 5420

Construction cost $22 million ($28.9 million in 2012 dollars)

 

Powerade Centre

Brampton Ontario, Hockey 4800

Construction cost $26.5 million ($34.8 million in 2012 dollars)

　

Thunder Bay

Hockey 5700

$125 Million at Water St bus terminal

Innova Park is at least $23.5 million cheaper !

　

Innova Park Location is Over $22 Million Dollars Cheaper to Build Multiplex

The cost to build Multiplex at Water St bus terminal $106,000,000 + these unmentioned costs not included in the Consultants "Book of Dreams" $2-3 million to purchase Shoreline and the neighboring Cumberland St. building to build remaining 300 car parkade (200 car parkade accounted for on Beer Store site) + at least $10 million to build parkade for those 300 spots + $5-6 million (or more) to move hydro station = $125 million or more to build at the Water St bus depot!

At Innova Park $106 million (actual or exaggerated?) - $4.5 million for the unnecessary repaving and road widening (this is not a priority,there are other roads in much greater need in the city)=$101.5 million

Innova Park is at least $23.5 million cheaper than the Water St bus terminal. This does not include the amount that Innova Parks price has been exaggerated!

What location do you think makes the most sense?

Why did the consultant not consider the "Walmart Factor"?

In the consultants report,it fails to consider the "Walmart Factor" in its suggestion, that building at the Water St bus terminal will make the former PA downtown an active, vibrant area once again. With Walmart having opened a new store at County Fair Plaza, with another coming at Arthur St Marketplace, it can only be a matter of time before both these malls are "active and vibrant" again. Regardless of whether one is a Walmart fan or not, Walmart does create a lot of traffic. So if you were opening a store that would compliment (forget competing) a Walmart, where would you open it, where Walmart has created lots of traffic or in one of the former cores?
    Here is an interesting scenario, if it was a private developer would the city be so willing to surrender parking spaces? Ironically only a Walmart could "Revitalize" either of the former cores!

http://www.opinionatedbastard.ca/?p=7528

Latest CJ Poll Is the Downtown Location the correct location?

http://www.chroniclejournal.com/editorial/poll/2012-10-17

The city is proposing to build a new multi-purpose event centre in the north downtown core. That plan is:

In the wrong location 64% (973 votes)

 

 

 

Perfect-Its the right location 21% (312 votes)

 

Something taxpayers can't afford 15% (221 votes)

 

No Opinion 1% (8 votes)

 

Total Votes 1514 

Time for Action

The next meeting on this issue is Nov 21 7PM

@ TB Community Auditorium

Council votes on this Monday Nov 26th

Come out and let council know what you think!

They can only place it where they want

it if you allow them to!